Hey RMers,

I'm getting close to the point for the redesign of the event and system roles (TK, CC and CQ) screens. I'd love to hear some feedback on how you guys you these screens now and/or suggestions about how screens could be better designed to suit your needs. Any and all comments are greatly appreciated.

As I have mentioned before, the option to make all of these screens more car number-class centric would be helpful to us.

DaveW

We'll be starting our summer season in a couple months time and will have a lot more suggestions at that time. I will try to create a mock event before then to provide some feedback. It's been a while since I used those screens (last event was Sep. '15)

@Chris For Cone Counter, not sure if it's possible, but to arrange the cars by order of run, as right now it takes a second to find the car getting the penalty. Also to add to record which station calls DNF, as it only tracks cones by station.
Thanks!

@JC said:

@Chris For Cone Counter, not sure if it's possible, but to arrange the cars by order of run, as right now it takes a second to find the car getting the penalty. Also to add to record which station calls DNF, as it only tracks cones by station.
Thanks!

This. We always use the "Use old layout" option for the Cone Counter screen because the current version's apparently-random method of locating the offending car is very difficult to use on the fly.

Also, for TK/CQ, it would be very helpful if the cars currently on course would drop out of the queue when they start, rather than when they finish. We can deal with it as-is, but it would be much more intuitive the other way.

The CQ works well enough, but increasing the contrast / highlight indicating where the next car will be entered would help a lot.

Thanks!

One other thing that came up last night:

It would be really convenient to have "Next Driver" and "Previous Driver" buttons on the membership detail page for each driver. If you're weeding through all your members to make adjustments, it's a bit of a pain to have to step back to the complete list every time and either scroll a mile, or take the time to click and type in the filter box.

For instance, I just deleted the permanent numbers for all my drivers who are not actual club members. It would have been a 2-step process for each of about 200 drivers, but instead it was a 4-step process with a lot of scrolling.

It's not a huge thing that happens at every event, but it would be nice for times like this. Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback guys.

All screens are getting a makeover.

CC is the toughest one. Early adopters complained that breaking out On course and finished was sucky because drivers would move from one section to another when they cross the finish line, just as they were tapping a driver to report a cone. v2 had the driver stay in the same slot but color coded (for Chrono users), but not in any order. Fitting the CC info on a tablet screen that doesn't move but satisfies everyone... I'm open to suggestions :-)

CQ is getting minor visual improvements, as @Duke mentioned, it is easier to tell where a driver is being placed (or that there is even the option).

TK is king and is improved as well.

Love the feedback, keep it coming!

I should have some suggestions for ya soon as I'm doing some training Tuesday night with another local club that just purchased axtime (South Bend SCCA). Been a while since I looked at the screens, so this should get some ideas following.

I do know adding a split times view would be a fun improvement. Currently clicking on a driver is the only way to see splits.

I know for us, it would be helpful in CQ to have a button that re-queue all drivers, in the same order, as the run before. As we run cars in roughly the same order each run, it would save us a minute or two adding all the same cars back in. Not sure if other clubs would use this - not a huge deal but would be nice to have.

@Chris said:

Thanks for the feedback guys.

All screens are getting a makeover.

CC is the toughest one. Early adopters complained that breaking out On course and finished was sucky because drivers would move from one section to another when they cross the finish line, just as they were tapping a driver to report a cone. v2 had the driver stay in the same slot but color coded (for Chrono users), but not in any order. Fitting the CC info on a tablet screen that doesn't move but satisfies everyone... I'm open to suggestions :-)

Off the top of my head, thinking of the CC screen - I like the colour coded slots. If you could order the slots in such a way as they matched the run order in CQ. As a car crosses the line, each car (slot) moves sequentially over by one spot. This would make it easy to locate a car on course or which cars were just recently on course and you would always know where it falls in the run order.

Oh yeah! I totally forgot what would make a big difference. Can we have it "batch" select all drivers currently marked as "NOT PAID" into paid? Better yet, when doing the "driver check in" from the iPad to have it mark it as paid, or have the option? I constantly have to go one at a time through the list (sometimes 90 drivers) and click one by one, scrolling and clicking.
Also to be able to hide the classes without entries for the "run group assignment"?
Thanks!
JC

@Chris said:

Thanks for the feedback guys.

All screens are getting a makeover.

CC is the toughest one. Early adopters complained that breaking out On course and finished was sucky because drivers would move from one section to another when they cross the finish line, just as they were tapping a driver to report a cone. v2 had the driver stay in the same slot but color coded (for Chrono users), but not in any order. Fitting the CC info on a tablet screen that doesn't move but satisfies everyone... I'm open to suggestions :-)

CQ is getting minor visual improvements, as @Duke mentioned, it is easier to tell where a driver is being placed (or that there is even the option).

TK is king and is improved as well.

Love the feedback, keep it coming!

Could we make the TK screen be able to click on the driver and add the penalties?

@JC said:

Could we make the TK screen be able to click on the driver and add the penalties?

^^^ yes and YES!!!

@Chris said:

Thanks for the feedback guys.

CC is the toughest one. Early adopters complained that breaking out On course and finished was sucky because drivers would move from one section to another when they cross the finish line, just as they were tapping a driver to report a cone. v2 had the driver stay in the same slot but color coded (for Chrono users), but not in any order. Fitting the CC info on a tablet screen that doesn't move but satisfies everyone... I'm open to suggestions :-)

What about making the list 1d instead of 2d? You can just use an endless queue idea where it just places the next car at the oldest spot. So, say there's 10 slots, numbered 0-9, the first 10 cars would be put into slots 0 through 9 and then the tenth car would just start over at slot 0. Always replacing the oldest one. That should cure some of the randomness, and work nicely on both large and small screens. Cars would be inserted when they started.

@CullenShane Great idea and that was the influence behind the current version and the concept of the "snake". But not sure if it turned out like that, as it may pick the "earliest" slot available. I believe that happened because of mobile first approach which beside CQ and Live Results is not the case now. Tablet first is the norm for v3.

In the announcer window, along with noting if a driver dropped time on their recent run, I want to also see a blurb if they changed position in class and by how much.
So like "DRIVER's BEST by -1.298 improved 9 to 7"

@JasonPowell said:

In the announcer window, along with noting if a driver dropped time on their recent run, I want to also see a blurb if they changed position in class and by how much.
So like "DRIVER's BEST by -1.298 improved 9 to 7"

That would be awesome! Then even new people would like announcing!

If possible, a single view that could perform all the main functions ... helpful for clubs that may only have a single person in timing.

@JasonPowell Great idea.

I would love to get Announcer screen to where anyone could announce cool stats. Not just about the current run but also about how they are doing on the day, past couple events, season, etc.... There is some really cool things we could do here. Suggestions are highly encouraged!!

even just adding a line under recent runs in TK if someone improves would be handy for announcing purposes.
"IMPROVED 1.234s moved 9th to 7th" ... like maybe this http://take.ms/fiu0P

@JasonPowell said:

If possible, a single view that could perform all the main functions ... helpful for clubs that may only have a single person in timing.

Jason: Since it is a browser interface, we just have preloaded tabs open for ALL the roles on the main TK laptop. That way, it's a fast 1-click change of screen.